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Post by 11111 on Aug 10, 2008 21:08:37 GMT -6
Are you a supporter or are you against it? I'm against it for the same reasons I'm against welfare or anything else in that field. I'll write up why later on when I am not rushing a post before I leave for work  DISCUSS. |
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Post by kaboomin on Aug 12, 2008 13:11:40 GMT -6
i'm all for it.
mostly because free drugs are the best drugs.
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Post by 11111 on Aug 12, 2008 18:10:32 GMT -6
That's the problem right there though, they aren't free. We would have to raise taxes even more to accommodate for the new expense. Which in the end would lead to healthy people like myself paying for other people to survive. Not cool. Not to mention all of the prescribed substance abuse that already goes on, think of how many more people would abuse the system. And we would be paying for it!
Although I could see this possibly happening in a world where our tax money was managed better, it would never work here. It is not possible to organize the tax money coming from all of the people that live in this country.
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Post by kaboomin on Aug 12, 2008 20:46:23 GMT -6
oh well.
just wait til you're old as shit, and need like a new heart and a new liver and a new wife.
then you'll love socialized health care.
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Post by 11111 on Aug 12, 2008 21:39:03 GMT -6
Yeah, but the money going into new heart/liver/wife/whatever still isn't going to make up for the thousands that were wasted during the rest of my life keeping the weak alive.
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Post by kaboomin on Aug 13, 2008 22:22:10 GMT -6
haha.
true.
i get sick a lot though (bad immune system?)
so i think it would save me a fuckload in health costs if it were free/socialized.
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Post by Shyft Trakia-Vorga VahtiDahl on Aug 14, 2008 13:46:47 GMT -6
Take better care of your self. Use the money saved from not paying the taxes to nurse your self.
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Post by 11111 on Aug 14, 2008 16:32:03 GMT -6
The majority of people who have weak immune systems are in that position because either they:
A) Don't eat enough food.
B)Eat the wrong kinds of food.
Generally if you have ALL of the nutrients that you need to get every day you will never get sick. The only times I get sick are when I eat unhealthy for an extended period of time or when I don't brush my teeth for a few days (which is also very important, believe it or not).
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Post by kaboomin on Aug 14, 2008 19:40:00 GMT -6
i didn't mean it in the sense that i am sick every day all year, i am usually sick about one week out of the year, two tops.
it's some real bullshit man.
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Post by futurefed on Aug 21, 2008 3:44:48 GMT -6
I have a friend who was shot during a drive by. (she was a bystander, not involved in one the many stupid blood feud) She worked two jobs (both min wage) and went to school. She had to leave both jobs after being shot, therefore can no longer attend school. She also has a nice bill from the Docs. She moved out from her apartment because she couldn't pay for it. (She was moved in with me for awhile, but has since moved on). She refuses to accept welfare because "others need it more."
Notice: She is not an unhealthy person. She does not do drugs. She is not degenerate. She got hit by a stray bullet and is now fucked. She is never going to pay off those loans. Welcome to America. Shit Happens.
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Post by 11111 on Aug 21, 2008 5:30:23 GMT -6
I would be up for it if there were a way to monitor where the money was going and only into situations like that, but unfortunately:
A) It's impossible to monitor exactly where all of that money is going with this many people in the country.
B) Even if it were possible it would probably result in an even greater hindering of our personal freedoms. Big brother is just around the corner.
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